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The Abbots House - formerly The Queens Armes |
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The Abbot`s House was built in 1525 by Thomas Charde ,the Abbot of Forde Abbey for his cousin, Ralph Tibbes, who was Bailiff of the village. It was later bought by Edward Limbry in 1575 from Sir John Petre, the owner of the village, who was to later leave it to his son, John. He in turn gave it to his eldest son, John who leased it to Margaret and George Wade who opened it as an Inn called The Queens Arms. It was here in 1651 that King Charles II stayed during his attempt to flee the country. It was John`s widow, Frances, who in 1671 sold The Queens Arms Inn for £80 to John and Elizabeth Stokes of Lyme Regis, who were related to Margaret Ward. They were there for just 2 years before selling it for £140 to Eleanor Floyer. When she died in 1675, aged 69, she left it to her three daughters. It was Grace who was to marry Rev. John Brice in 1699. After her death he continued to live and preach from the house. When he died in 1715, he was to leave the house and various properties in trust to the Congregational Church. It was to be the Manse for the 18 ministers that followed him until its sale in 1930. It was bought by Clifford Stapleforth who converted into the Queens Armes Hotel which it has remained under various ownerships until recently. The Abbots House is an amazing survival after five centuries and still Charmouth` fairest House as it was described in a Survey of the village in 1575. There follows a detailed illustrated history of this ancient building. |
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This fanciful view of the Queens Arms was painted by Thomas Carter Galpin in 1827. He would have known the house well as he assisted the Rev. Benjamin Jeanes with its restoration. It is very useful as it shows the house as it would have looked before it was extended on the west side. It clearly reveals an ancient building, most of which has survived to this day. The house is now almost five hundred years old and I hope through my researches to uncover its almost complete history from its construction in 1525. |
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I have written articles on most of the old buildings of Charmouth except this house as there were gaps in my knowledge. Peter Press had earlier in 2009 produced a comprehensive history of the house which was published in the Charmouth Local History Group`s Echo, which I highly recommend with the information he had at that time. I now feel more confident about it after coming across the original deeds in the Record Office in Dorchester (NP-1/5)dating back to 1671 when it was sold by Frances Limbry to John and Elizabeth Stokes of Lyme Regis for the sum of £80. This was of tremendous assistance in taking the history back further than was previously known on its ownership. It was Eleanor, widow of Anthony Floyer who shortly after his death in 1672 moved from nearby Berne Manor to the house after purchasing it from the Stokes. It would seem that the Limbry family were to have bought it from the descendants of Ralf Tibbes, cousin of Abbot Thomas Charde, whose initials can still be seen above the original stone entrance. Again we are fortunate that a survey of the village taken in 1564 for Sir William Petre describes it as ”the fairest house in the town and built by the last abbot of Forde”, by then it was occupied by Roger Colwill. This assists us in being more precise about its construction as Thomas was Abbot from 1521 until 1539. To be even more accurate, we find Ralph Tibbes appearing on the Lay Subsidy List of 1525 for Charmouth where he is paying 5d.This provides evidence that we are coming up to its 500th anniversary. |
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I am quite confident that there was an even earlier building on the site as in 1295, William, Abbot of Forde decided to create a Borough with a number of half acre burgage plots on either side of The Street. This would have included this area of land. It is astonishing that vestiges of this layout can still be seen today with the stone wall to the north of the Street and boundary walls leading up to it. The original plots proved to be too small and were later amalgamated into one acre plots with a further Acre of Common Land, as was the case with the Abbots House. |
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The 1671 document refers to the building being known as “The Queens Arms” which it was to be called until very recently when it was changed to the “Abbots House” . It was earlier thought that it referred to a visit by Catherine of Aragon in 1509 on her way to London to be married to Prince Arthur. There is no evidence of this as it predates the rebuilding. On the death of his brother, King Henry VIII married Catherine and they were to be together for 24 years until his divorce and marriage to Anne Boleyn in 1533. The only |
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The title of “The Queens Arms” must refer to its brief ownership by Queen Elizabeth I until her selling it with the rest of the village to Sir William Petre in 1564. The original Charter was included in the deeds to the Manor and in 1853 it was copied out by Matthew Liddon to prove his ownership of the foreshore. It is very long and seems to apply to all the lands and buildings in the villagethat Queen Elizabeth in the 6th year of her reign (1564) granted to Robert and William Caldwell. They were acting as Agents for Sir William Petre, who soon after added Charmouth to his huge Estate. |
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Thomas Charde was elected to the abbacy of Forde in 1521 a position he was to hold for eighteen years. He devoted great energy and vast sums on the improvement of their monastic buildings at a time when the writing was already on the wall for their demise. Although complete dissolution was probably a way off, it was plain that some sort of re-organisation of the monasteries was bound to come, particularly of their revenues, and royal requests for 'free gifts and loans of money” were the first sign. This probably prompted the Abbot to spend the income of the Abbey on its enlargement and adornment rather than hand it over to the royal exchequer. He had in fact already faced two demands in 1523 and 1525, the latter with which he bravely showed he was unwilling to comply. He built an entirely new wing at Forde Abbey with carved panels including his initials T.C. as well as a new Hall and Lodgings for himself. The richly carved tower he constructed above the entrance still has a Latin inscription above the tall oriel window that reads ”made in the year of our Lord 1528 by Thomas Chard, Abbot”. |
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He was to do likewise in Charmouth where his cousin, Ralph Tibbes (his mother's surname) was Steward, which still has his T.C. initials above the former entrance to his House. |
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The Survey taken by Sir William Petre, the new owner of the Village in 1564 can now be seen at the Record Office in Exeter(123M/E30) . The translation by Steven Hobbs reveals the village in great depth in that year. The reference to The Abbots House is as follows: |
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The Lay Subsidy of 1525 which includes Ralph Tibbes, revealed a population of about 200. It was shown to account for less than 10% of the total income of the Abbey. Abbot Chard’s masterplan was interrupted in 1539 by the dissolution of the larger monasteries. He handed Forde Abbey quietly over to the Crown, becoming vicar of Thorncombe until his death in 1543.Ralph Tibbes and his son Thomas were to become Bailiffs and Stewards of the Manors of Charmouth, Toller and Turnemouth, with an annuity of £5 in the year 1535. They were no doubt to hold that role in the fine house, Thomas was to have built for them. Ralph with his son Edward was later to appear on the 1542 Muster Roll List for the village possessing suits of armour. Thomas was to improve other buildings in the village including the present Manor House and Charmouth House which both have roof timbers dating back to the 16th Century. Hutchins in his history of Dorset writes that the Church was almost entirely rebuilt at that time |
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After the dissolution of Forde Abbey in 1539, the village was to be owned by the Crown until Queen Elizabeth sold it to Sir William Petre for just £25.He was immensely wealthy and used his position as Secretary of State for King's Henry VIII, Edward, Queen's Mary and Elizabeth to increase it with the dissolution of the monastic estates. He was known to have 36,000 acres in Devon alone which included the Town of Axminster. When Sir William died in 1572, his widow continued to reside at Ingatestone Hall in Essex, and so his son John then resident at Writtle Park, looked for another property to suit their status. In 1574, John added West Thorndon Hall and a further 12,000 acres. To finance this he was to sell a number of his Manors which included Charmouth. He was a good friend of William Pole who resided at Shute, near Axminster who was to buy Charmouth Manor and Mill from him in 1575. |
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After studying the Records for Frances Limbry,I have found that her maiden name was Frances James and she was living in Ratcliff, Stepney in London when she married John Limbry, son of John Limbry of Charmouth in 1634. John Limbry the Elder was a son of Edward Limbry who had originally bought the Abbots House with other properties in 1575 from Sir John Petre. After his early death, his wife Joan was to move to Ratcliff with her 4 children and marry Walter Whiting, a Mariner. This would explain why her eldest child, John never returned to Charmouth. Walter Whitting`s Will is very extensive and refers to her previous marriage. There is also a deed in Dorset Record Office (D-FRY/83) where in 1625 John Lymbry the Elder assigns Land in Charmouth to Walter Whiting of Limehouse, Middlesex which confirms their earlier link. |
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The family tree shown above is based on all available information from Wills, Court cases and Deeds. They were a large family and a |
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In 1588 Edward Limbry was assessed for an income of £48 per year on his Estate, a considerable amount for those times. On his death it was to be his son, Edward who was to inherit most of the properties, although John was to inherit what was to be known as The Abbots House. The estate was developed by his offspring and the Will for Edward, his grandson for 1645 shows that his son Andrew was living in the east part of what is today Charmouth House and his other son William in the west part. The estate was developed by his offspring and the Will for Edward, his grandson for 1645 shows that his son Andrew was living in the east part of what is today Charmouth House and his other son William in the west part. The Tomb for John Limbry and his daughter Margaret Stuckly can still be seen in the Churchyard of Charmouth Church near its entrance. I have found it impossible to link them with the descendants of the wealthy Edward Limbry. |
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It is Frances ,wife of John Limbry who is relevant to the Abbots House and the earliest Deed is very important as it is very descriptive and reads as follows: |
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After studying the Records for Frances Limbry,I have found that her maiden name was Frances James and she was living in Ratcliff, Stepney in London when she married John Limbry, son of John Limbry of Charmouth in 1634. John Limbry the Elder was a son of Edward Limbry who had originally bought the Abbots House with other properties in 1575 from Sir John Petre. After his early death, his wife Joan was to move to Ratcliff with her 4 children and marry Walter Whiting, a Mariner. This would explain why her eldest child, John never returned to Charmouth. Walter Whitting`s Will is very extensive and refers to her previous marriage. There is also a deed in Dorset Record Office (D-FRY/83) where in 1625 John Lymbry the Elder assigns Land in Charmouth to Walter Whiting of Limehouse, Middlesex which confirms their earlier link. |
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It is Margaret Wade who would be forever famous as being the Landlady of The Queens Arms on the 22nd day of September in 1651 when King Charles stayed for one night in disguise at The Inn before setting out to meet Stephen Limbry on the shore and to be taken into exile in France. Sadly It was Stephen`s Wife who was suspicious of her husband’s actions and had locked him in their house until it was too late to meet up with the King who would carried on to Bridport and eventual freedom following the most secluded routes across Dorset, Wiltshire, and Hampshire to Shoreham in Sussex. There, on the 15th October 1651, the King made his great escape. |
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I have been fortunate in finding out more about Margaret and her husband and how they feature in the story of the Abbots House. It would seem that although John Limbry owned the House he was to let it to Margaret and George Wade. The 1641 Protestation List has Andrew, Edward, Henry, John and Stephen Limbry all living in the Village, who would no doubt be his relatives. It also lists George Wade who also appears on the 1664 Hearth Tax List living at The Abbots House with 5 Hearths. This is only second to The Manor House, opposite the Church owned by William Ellesdon with 6 Hearths. William Limbry occupies the west part of Charmouth House with 4 hearths and his brother the east part with 3 hearths, Stephen Limbry at Mill View has just 1 Hearth. Sadly the huge Chimney Stack containing some of the hearths at the rear of the Abbots House was demolished in the last century. Clarendon writes “the small Inn was kept by a man who was reputed honest, to which the Cavaliers of the county often resorted, and the London Road passed that way, so that it was seldom without company. |
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Returning back to the Document relating to the sale of Queens Inn in 1671, I tried to find out who exactly were John and Elizabeth Stokes from Lyme Regis, who had bought the property and its land for £80, as they were only there for just 2 years until selling it on Eleanor Floyer for £140. It would seem that they were closely related to Margaret Wade. The following is a Petition from the same Elizabeth to King Charles II soon after his return to the Throne in 1670 which reads as follows in old English: |
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The King may well have remembered Margaret Ward`s service to him at the Inn and rewarded her after reading this Petition as he had already given William Ellesdon a pension of £300 a year for his life time. George was to die in 1679 and Margaret Wade in 1685 and both were buried in Charmouth`s Churchyard. John and Elizabeth Stokes were to do well with their purchase of The Queens Arms and made £60 profit on the transaction. In July, 1671, it seems that Charles II revisited the scene of his adventures in the autumn of 1651. The Lyme Regis Archives reveal that "King Charles being about to pass through Charmouth on July 2 1671 a party at the head of which was our well known townsman Captain Gregory Alford went forth to meet his Majesty”. He no doubt met up with both Margaret and George Wade who were still at The Inn as well as William Ellesdon at The Manor House in Charmouth. |
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Eleanor Floyer was to only briefly own The Abbots House until giving it to her daughters. Despite this she was to have a lasting impact on its future. She was born in 1597 to Sir William and Mary Pole of Colcombe, near Axminster. Her family were extremely wealthy and their estates included the Manor of Charmouth. She married Anthony Floyer who owned Berne Manor, a short distance from Charmouth and there they were to have 1 son and 8 daughters, some of whom were to be christened in Charmouth. Her younger son was killed in the Siege of Lyme Regis in 1644. Her husband, Anthony died in 1672 and the eldest son was to inherit Berne Manor. She in due course bought The Queens Arms for herself and her daughters. She had earlier given shelter to the Rev. John Brice, who had been ejected from the Marshwood living in 1662. He was to join her in Charmouth at her new residence. Mrs. Floyer died in 1675 aged 79. In her will she left John Brice £10 and two pairs of sheets and a bed, bolster and down pillow and two books. She had made over the house to her daughter in 1673. |
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John Brice settled at Marshwood in 1659, but did not long continue there, being ejected in August, 1662, for nonconformity and was twice in Dorchester jail as a result. One of the earliest licences under the Indulgence of 1672 was taken out by him on April 30th, to hold Presbyterian services in his own house in Marshwood and in the following June to hold services in the house of Eleanor Floyer at Berne Manor at Whitchurch. He was later to open a place of worship at Charmouth, of which he was the first pastor. The meeting-house was formed out of two mud cottages which adjoined The Abbots House. After Mrs. Bulstrode the older daughter died, Sarah and Grace allowed John to knock down the old cob chapel at the east end of the house and to build another chapel in 1696, a part of which still exists today at the rear. |
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In 1699 John married the surviving daughter Grace when he was sixty-three and she a year or so older. They lived in the main house until he died in 1716 which was to be the home of non-conformist ministers for many years. At or before his death he conveyed the chapel, house and garden to trustees, and gave money which seems to have been invested in the purchase of Lamberton Plot of two acres of land in Lyme Regis, and the Leys Estate of twenty acres in Symondsbury. The chapel had besides the above a field in Lower Sea Lane, about one acre. Under an Enclosure Act a plot of land in the Axminster Road one acre was allocated to the trustees. The rents from these lands formed the chief sources of the minister's income. |
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In 1812, the Rev. Benjamin Jeannes arrived at the little church. During the 26 years of Mr. Jeannes's ministry it reached a higher level of activity than it had ever reached before. He pulled down the 120 years old thatched chapel, which was in a ruinous state, and built a more substantial building in 1815. He was also to substantially alter The Abbot`s House soon after. The Tudor entrance was bricked up, the kitchen and a small room was shut off making a separate cottage. A front door with an entrance hall was made by taking part of the larger room in which a more modern fireplace was built halfway across the east wall with a brick chimney, which made its way through the bedroom above blocking a plaster plaque on the wall except for two corners, this room for many years afterwards was supposed to have been where Charles II had slept and that the hidden plaque was his coat of arms. Fireplaces in other bedrooms replaced the old Tudor ones. Downstairs the small panelled room was not altered except the two windows, which looked west and south, were bricked up and another overlooking the street made instead. Two rooms were added on the west side to provide accommodation for his pupils. |
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Benjamin kept a boarding school for the sons of gentlemen to eke out his income. Benjamin died on the 13th August 1838 aged 55 and was buried beneath 'the floor of the pulpit in the chapel which he had built. In 1831 he had bought the newly built "No. 2 Hillside" for £1150 from its builder, Joseph Wilson, where his wife was to later reside as his widow. |
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The Chapel was redecorated in 1866 and the pews rearranged so that about thirty sittings were gained. The Rev. W. Axford. was minister at the time and travelled many miles and wrote numerous letters to friends in order to collect the money to pay for the alterations, which amounted to £128 - 10 - 4d. Owing to the absence of a damp course the walls were often in a bad condition. |
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This early photograph of the rear of the Abbots House in 1890 reveals that the building had been split into two parts with a high wall between them. The smaller part which incorporated most of the original building was let out and the Minister occupied the larger portion on the right. The extension built by Benjamin Jeannes in 1815 is to the left of the middle chimney and included a conservatory. |
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This view shows the line of thatched buildings that were to be lost in a fire in 1895. Opposite is Pryers stone masons yard . The Abbots House and Chapel are surrounded by fields at that time. |
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This Aerial view taken in 1928 now shows the Abbot`s House next to the newly built Gears Garage. Behind it is the large Pear Tree field that was to be bought by Clifford Stapleforth, |
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There were to be 19 Ministers who occupied the Abbots House as a Manse before it was finally sold in 1930. They are listed here with their respective years of office: |
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In 1841 William Gill representing the Trustees of the Independent Chapel is shown as owners of no. 207 which measures 3 rood and 20 perches, 208 is 24 perches. They also own an acre of meadow on the common and a further acre at Langmoor Coppice which they rent out. |
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It was Clifford John Stapleforth who was the successful bidder in 1930 when The Dorset Congregational Association decided to sell The |
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The Census for 1921 reveals him at the same address, then aged 30 with two children, Stanley, aged 5 and Donald, aged 1 year. He describes himself as a Motor Mechanic at that time running The Station Garage at Lyme Regis. Two years later he was to buy Lansdowne House, next to Devonedge on The Street and convert part of it into a Motor Garage. It would seem that he was not worried about competition as Billy Gear operated a similar Garage opposite. |
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In 1924 he bought a field in Lower Sea Lane and built five houses on the site which are Broadlands, Bracoden, The Bower House, Pembroke and Orchard End today. As shown in photographs above. He carried on developing land in Charmouth and in 1927 built another two cottages on The Street. His biggest acquisition was in 1934 when the former land and houses that were owned by Harry Pryer were auctioned. He was to pay just £370 for the ground where the shops on the north side were to be built and £400 for an acre of Pasture Land fronting on to The Street and Lower Sea Lane where the shops on the south side now are. |
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Returning back to his purchase of The Abbots House in 1930, we find him soon after moving into it with his family and opening part of it into a Hotel, which had been its original purpose. He also incorporated a Tea Room on the ground floor. He placed an advert in Charmouth`s first Official Guide book in 1934 which is very descriptive. There was Electric Light throughout with hot and cold water in the bedrooms. It also had a charming Tea Garden at the rear with a hard Tennis Court. For some reason he resurrected its earlier name of The Queens Arms but spelt with an additional e to make it sound antiquated. |
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Stapleforth was keen to promote his new hotel and produced a number of postcards of both the inside and outside of it. This is one of the garden . The earlier 1815 extension on the left appears to have been reroofed and a new conservatory added. The lean to on the side was to later be replaced with an extension. |
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Louis and Doris De Ville were the owners from 1936 until 1944. The original plans shown above are of the extension they had built which extended the hotel to the west. The 1939 Census shows them aged 30 and 36 respectively. |
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The Hotel was to change hands a number of times after the Stapleforths, which are listed as follows: 1936 - 1944 LM. De Ville to Mrs. L.B.A. Teague, 1944-1947 LB.A. Teague to Mrs. F. Williamson,1947-1949 F Williamson to Mrs M.A. Hurst,1949-1951, M.A. Hurst to Mr. & Mrs. Jones,1951 - 1958 Mr.& Mrs. Jones to Mr. & Mrs. Harris, Peter and Jen Miles, Carol and Philip Mapstone, Nick and Sheila Gilbey 2008 to date |
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